Unless it’s old information using corny lines about “Cock-tails”, “feeling a big hap-Penis inside” or “Newd-Irections.”

I hope I made it as obvious as possible in the Introduction and Rationale pages that contrary to the beliefs of several people I’ve met, there is no one ‘correct’ answer as to how to seduce; because people are not objects to be conquered. In the film, Roger doesn’t understand this, and so at first, during the initial banter he comes across as confident and charismatic, but he’s also cold, calculating, aloof around people and unable to make any kind of emotional connection.

Then, because he’s portrayed as working in advertising, his seduction strategy is very similar. i.e. to show people problems, and then to present himself as the solution (much the same way most stuff is advertised on TeeVee these days). We see him do this a number of times after his break-up with Joyce, to the point that he pulls of an almost exact character assessment, and then blows everything up, perhaps because he’s not thinking straight after the break-up, or he’s just so good that he needs to handicap himself.

Anyway, I suspect the situation you are describing is more ‘When Harry Met Sally’ than ‘Roger Dodger’. In the opening scene to the film, Roger is not enacting a seductive role because we find out later in the film that he has already slept with Joyce, but has become sloppy in his relationship with her. And thus, she dumps him for another co-worker.

If anything, I’d suggest that his psychobabble is more reminiscent of the Seduction Idols that will promise you ‘get any girl’, if only you’ll give them $$$$. We’re told later that “[Roger] writes good copy” and “[Roger could] talk himself out of anything”. Interestingly a later scene bears this out, when Nick says “You said you score every night” and Roger responds “I say a lot of things” and then obfuscates by telling Nick to call his mother. Similar dubious hyped up theories can be found in the real world, if you search certain message boards for the phrase “50,000 years ago”.

Anyway, I Suspect Scott is discussing an optimization strategy, whilst JSterling points to attitude and you seem to be taking a more psychological stance. All are equally excellent points, and I’m sure all will work well, only some may work better in different circumstances. Thus, by having more choices, we all gain extra equipment for the seduction toolbox.

Finally, I’ve often wondered why guys want to go out and get contacts of as many women as possible. It strikes me that by picking the right person initially, having a good attitude and a number of different skills to choose from, depending upon the circumstances and environment etc. One can meet quality women sooner, and then enjoy spending time with them instead of randomly trotting out tired old pickup lines to anyone that will listen, and harvesting a bunch of BOBFOC numbers you’ll probably never call anyway.

In the film Roger’s argument is flawed because it omitted sex, the omission begs to be corrected, but is perceived as an oversight, rather than being orchestrated.

Alternatively, NLP techniques may also be of help, make her associate you with sex under her radar.

Either way, escalation should subsequently feel more congruent with the circumstances and her new feelings towards you. If she feels in control of any sexual or at least suggestive conversation, she will be far more at ease and you’re less likely to trip yourself up.

I think JSterling raises a good point: relationships polarise. From his comment it strikes me that either one of a number of things is going on inside her head.

ADP may be caused by “assumption of guilt”, so the woman never looses sight of a man’s sexuality. Scott’s avoidance tactics eventually qualify him because he’s the only man who has proven to have strict morals… and then the priest disrobes the nun!

However, this assumption might exclude a happy middle (where Scott would fall.) This would polarise all men into either buddy material, or sexual predators to be avoided. This is a very devout nun. No one (Jonathan excepted) seduces her!

Lastly, there may be a girl who takes this posture merely because of social conditioning. She isn’t thrilled by “good men”, let alone wants celibacy. In effect she is just calling your bluff - giving you a “shit test”. JSterling would teasingly mock her posturing and she would promptly disarm… and after some interesting romance, disrobe!

Of course it is tempting to bite the bullet rather than waste energy on someone who may eventually reject your advances. But I believe you’ve got to make a quick judgement as to which of these kind of girls stand before you, ask whether you are willing to make sacrifices, and then act accordingly.